Archive for October 1st, 2009

From: “Girish Nath Biswas”
To: am-global@earthlink.net
Subject: Story: Conversation with Baba
Date: Thu 01 Oct 2009 05:28:37 +0530


“Toma’rei ma’ni ka’che a’cho ja’ni, Tumi a’ma’r devata’…” (4235)


By Your grace, I have understood this fact, that You are remaining always
very close to me. You are my devata’, You are my everything. Knowingly or
unknowingly, I am remaining in Your mind. You are my eternal saviour. Baba,
You are always living with me. It is Your grace…



The story starts here, which I received.

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I was with Baba in Delhi those days. Once He blessed me the opportunity to
go in His room and personally see Him, to serve Him. And then He started
telling many things about Lord Krishna and the whole incident of Lord
Krishna’s leaving His physical body. And in the end part of Lord Krishna’s
leaving His physical body Baba told that some poisonous arrow pierced into
Lord Krishna’s foot and that was the last…

And by listening all these long story from Baba I was feeling pain. Then
Baba asked, “Why are you feeling pain? I also have to leave My physical
body and you people must not be unhappy.” While Baba was speaking like
this I just put my hand on His mouth and with full pain I requested Him not
to say such things. “I don’t want to hear such painful things about when
You are going to leave Your physical body. Please do not say such things.”

Then Baba started smiling and took my hand away from His mouth and with
love He started convincing me. “First stop crying and then I will tell you

When I stopped crying He started saying, “All the rules of nature are made
by Parama Purusa and under that rule, one day I have to leave this physical
body. And that day will come when I have finished the work I have decided to
do with this physical body. Try to understand that when Lord Krishna
wanted to make the Great India, the Mahabharata, He made the Pandavas His
medium. And when His work was finished, with His own desire, He left His
physical body. You all are my mini-Babas. When you become like this and
are able to execute My samkalpa, then I will understand that you can
fulfill My work, and so what will be the use of My physical body? When the
work of this physical body is finished then I will leave My physical body.”


Baba then said. “I only took this physical body to teach you all
practically and to establish Ideology. If Parama Purusa so desires He can
do anything and everything and when He created this physical world He also
made the rules to control this physical world. Prakrti is controlling
everything and so His physical body also has to follow nature’s rules that
He Himself created. Otherwise how will Nature follow its rule properly?”

“Parama Purusa has given certain rules and authority to Nature, to the
Operative Principle to follow, so He is also obeying that rule when He
comes in physical form. If Lord Krishna had so desired, dharma would have
been established even without the complete destruction of the Kaoravas but
it would not have been inspiring history. Actually, Lord Krishna wanted to
teach the public that they should come forward to save dharma and that

After Baba’s talk I was crying and I put my hand on Baba’s mouth and
requested Him, “Baba please do not say such painful things. Listening to
those things, has made me cry so do not say such things. If you so desire
You may leave Your physical body, but promise me that You will not go
before me. You must not leave me.”

After listening to my pain Baba assured me. He said, “What you are
thinking will happen like this. I was in your Guru Cakra, I am in your
Guru Cakra and I always will remain in your Guru Cakra. You people are the
image of My ideology, and the world will know Me by your actions.”

Before leaving the room I asked Baba if He would answer some questions.

On this point, Baba smiled and said, “Whatever you want, you can ask without any




I (Parasattananda) asked Baba, “Why is it that people do not celebrate the
death day of Lord Shiva and Lord Krishna yet people celebrate the birth
ceremony of Lord Krishna?” When I asked Baba this question He became
furious and in a loud voice, Baba scolded me. “Does Parama Purusa die any
time? He is an eternal entity, He never dies.”

When I saw His furious face I started trembling and sweating and I felt
strong repentance for asking such a question. Then Baba said, “Lord
Krishna as well as Lord Shiva is Parama Purusa and for doing great work and
to establish dharma, He comes in physical form and when dharma has been
established, then He leaves His physical body. For permanent relief to
sadhus, and the complete destruction of bad people, the Lord comes in human
form. And when His work is over, when dharma is established, He leaves His
physical body.”

“Lord Krishna did the same thing and with His desire, He left His physical
body when His work was finished. Because He is Parama Purusa and eternally
present all the time, then how one can celebrate His death day. He is
Omni-Present. He is Parama Purusa. So there is no question of celebrating
the death day of Lord Shiva and Lord Krishna.”

In the last Baba with strong voice asked me, “When I (Baba) leave My
physical body will you people want to celebrate My death day?”

Listening the commanding voice of Baba I was scared and replied slowly, “No, Baba. ”

After that Baba became mild and He told me “It is getting late at night,
you go and take rest.”

And after I did sastaunga pranam and I quickly escaped from His room and
took a deep breath, and started pondering that how Baba is furious about my
question. Constant idea was hovering in my mind that how HE was furious.

Because of that still I remember the whole episode that His so-called
Mahaprayan must not be celebrated. That is why in my personal life I never
participated. How I can participate and disobey His command and make Him
unhappy. Since a long time I am telling this story to all who I see on
different occasions. That is why since the beginning I am a strong opposer
of this so-called Mahaprayan.


Here I am quoting some Baba’s direct lines which are highly significant.

Baba says, “Guru rus’te na kaschan….”

‘The meaning of the whole sloka is that when Guru is unhappy then nobody
in this universe can save the person.’

That is why it is also said,

“Mantra mulam…
‘Guru’s words are mantra…’

This is the same reason that happened that Sarvatmanananda disobeyed
Baba on this above said story and look what is going on with his fate.

Note: This story is translated from Dada Parasattanandaji’s book
‘Manavrata ka Sunahala Bhavishya’, which means “The Golden Future of Humanity”.

Dada Parasattanandji is posted in India most of the time. These
days postings and transfers are so common in our Marga but as far as my
awareness in the recent past Dadaji was posted in Bihar. He is a very
respected and good Dada and he is WT since 1967.

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Lord Baba says:

“The person who is engaged in service, if in his mind this ideation is there,
‘I have served him. Then he should also do something for me. It will be
better.’ That is not good. But rather the one who is serving, in his mind
this feeling should be there: ‘I have come on this earth to serve others.
It is my duty. But no one has any duty towards me.'” (AV-9, Ch 11 [Hindi])


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