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"Relative logic is based on sense perception...This is by definition limited and mistake prone.  Various groupists saw Baba with their crude eyes and then when their crude eyes could no longer see Baba, they declared that He is gone, and voila - mahaprayan."

"Relative logic is based on sense perception...This is by definition limited and mistake prone. Various groupists saw Baba with their crude eyes and then when their crude eyes could no longer see Baba, they declared that He is gone, and voila - mahaprayan."

Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2009 08:46:37 -0000
Subject: Bogus Logic
To: am-global@earthlink.net
From: Satiish K Bhatia”


“Pratham jiivane, tumi a’so niko, ta’r la’gi, mane kono klesh na’i…” (PS 379)


Baba, You did not come close to me in the dawn of my life; but I do not
have any agony in my mind about why You did not bring me under Your
shelter that time– why You did not come close to me and become very
intimate. For that I do not have any mental anguish or suffering. But I
do have repentance in my heart for why I did not search You that time.
That is why my heart is burning and crying all the time. The fault is
mine that in my early years I did not search You. For that I have deep

Baba, that time You were so close to me– living side by side, always.
Even then I did not call You or try to search for You by learning
sadhana. I did not care about that back then. Just my days and nights
passed in vain, doing various useless pursuits that time in the early
stage of my life. Yet, now in the twilight of my life, the more those
early remembrances sprout in mind, the more pain I feel.

Baba, by Your grace everyone comes onto this earth for a short span of
time, for a calculated period. And there are so many works to do. Yet
fruitlessly people waste their time blaming God for their misfortunes–
but there is no benefit in this. Because everyone is facing their own
samskara. When they remove the umbrella of vanity, they will realise
that Your grace is showering eternally. Baba, You are ever gracious;
what You do is best for me. My only desire is to always remain under
Your shelter…


People often think that if they have logic on their side – then
everything is well and fine. Then they feel that their stance is
justified and correct.

However, this needs our special consideration.


The Sanskrit word “yukti” means logic. The root “yuj” means to unite.
And when one unites themselves with a particular thought process, that
is their logic. However, such logic can be right or wrong. Because,
everyone has their logic – even those on opposite sides of the same issue.

For instance, pro-choice advocates and anti-abortion activists both have
their logic. Pro-choice’ers say that a woman has a right to make a decision
about her body and that there is no loss of human life whereas right to lifers
argue that one cannot kill a human life yet abortion does just that. So both
sides have their own logic – and the debate roars ahead in that way.

Another hot topic is gay marriage. Those for it proclaim that every human
being has the right to marry while those opposed say that marriage is to be done
only between a man and a woman. Here again, both sides have their logic.

Likewise, politicians “on opposite sides of the aisle” have their own
logic about issues from health care to the economy. Meat eaters and
vegetarians have their logic. Convicted criminals and court justices
both have their logic. Everybody has their logic.

In the aforementioned cases, both parties are not correct. One may be
correct or neither may be correct. It depends. Yet both have their
favoured logic on the very same issue.

Here the point is that logic can lead one to the wrong answer. Period.
So we have to be careful – logic itself is not to be trusted 100% – we
must ensure that our quest for truth goes beyond simple logic.


At present we have similar issues in AMPS. There are topics on the table
for review, and various parties have their logic. So on any given issue
– court cases, land disputes, book rights etc – each of the groups has
their chosen logic. They all have their ground to stand on, claiming
their view or logic to be correct.

To escape this predicament – to follow the path of dharma – we have to
then go beyond just plain logic.


The main problem is that logic can be formulated around any group,
party, or personal interest. Let’s take the case of mahaprayan.

If we were to walk into the Tiljala campus, then they can give all kinds
of logic as to the importance of mahaprayan. Because their desire is to
earn money, make Kolkata the epicenter of AMPS life, enhance their group
prestige etc, for all these reasons and more, they have huge interest in
making mahaprayan a success.

They may even say that Baba is gone because we do not see Him with our crude
eyes anymore. So they have all kinds of logic and more about this particular
point is addressed in the next subheading.

Yet we all know mahaprayan to be a dogma. Such is the problem with logic.

Thus we need to ensure that logic is not just based on private
interests, but rather represents universal welfare and spiritual values,
i.e. sarva jana hitaya.Then that logic will lead to the proper answer,
otherwise not. Then it will just be bogus logic, nothing more.

For instance, Baba Himself has said that:

1) Parama Purusa is everywhere and in everything;

Baba says, ‘There is no place which is inaccessible to Him. If a person
is at a particular place and has to move to some other place, he will
have to travel. But the Lord is everywhere, and He in reality does not
have to move. In other words, He has so many feet that He is able to
reach any place and be available at all places at all times.” (AV-30)

2) Parama Purusa is timeless;

Baba says, “The one formless, beginningless and infinite Parama Brahma
(Supreme Consciousness) is the only entity to be attained by living
beings – That alone is Jagat Guru (the Supreme preceptor), That alone
has revealed Brahmavidya’ (intuitional science) to us through the medium
of the name and form of Anandamu’rtijii. Unit beings must be made to
appreciate Its majesty.” (CC-2)

3) Parama Purusa always resides in our heart;

Baba says, ” When you are established in devotion, you get Parama’tma’
too. Then you will experience yourselves that Parama’tma’ is seated in
your heart, you will not have to go elsewhere in search of Him.” (SS-19)

4) In addition, Baba has outlined all the needed celebrations in our
Marga and in no place did He mention that mahaprayan should be
celebrated. Rather He specifically warned against observing mahaprayan.

Thus for any logic to be correct on the issue of mahaprayan, then it
must be in keeping and consistent with Baba’s above teachings. It must
be in concert with apta vakya, i.e. the eternal truths as given by Baba.

But the dogma of mahaprayan runs totally contrary to all of Baba’s
stated principles. The groupist mahaprayan celebration mandates that
Baba is gone forever. That is their position. In contrast, in countless
discourses Baba says that He is always with us. Both stands cannot be

Since Baba’s every word is supreme truth and by definition apta vakya,
then that must be accepted and any other logic discarded.

In that case, all sincere Ananda Margiis will adhere to Baba’s dharmic
teachings and not listen to any other groupist logic in favour of
observing the dogma of mahaprayan.

Because the logic in favour of mahaprayan is just bogus logic guided by
group and party interest, separate from the truth of universal welfare.


Relative logic is based on sense perception: what one learns from the
world using their eyes, nose, ears, tongue, and hands etc. This is by
definition limited and mistake prone.

Various groupists saw Baba with their crude eyes and then when their
crude eyes could no longer see Baba, they declared that He is gone, and
voila – mahaprayan.

So their dogmatic logic of mahaprayan is based on their crude sense
perception. So we should never get trapped by this materialistic
approach. Day in and day out people are led in the wrong direction by
sense perception.

Baba says, “Whatever people say they “know” about an object is only
their sense perception, and not real knowledge. And that sense
perception remains unsubstantiated.” (AMIWL-8)

Those then who claim that Baba is gone and give their logic of
mahaprayan are totally misguided, fooled and blinded by the limitations
of their crude sense experience.

Sadhakas of the Marga should instead rely on more subtle ways of
knowing. Guided by intuition and devotion, such bhaktas can feel in
their heart that Baba is there. In that case, how can one claim that He
is gone. That is why no true Ananda Margii follows the dogma of mahaprayan.

The dogma of mahaprayan(MPD) is nothing but the brainchild of dry groupists
who got befooled by their own petty interest and limited sense
experience. Such is their pathetic condition.

And indeed when their logic for MPD is measured against the touchstone of
divine truth and realisation, then very quickly their logic falls on its face and is
proven totally false.


To get the truth, logic must be grounded in rationality, universal
welfare and spiritual sentiment. Then that logic will lead one in the
right direction.

Unfortunately now in AMPS, each and every group has their own distinct
logic, i.e. bogus logic. It is not just the B team that suffers from
this syndrome with regards to the dogma of mahaprayan. All groupists
give their phony logic based on narrow sentiments.

1. There are some who will give tons of logic how it was appropriate to
change the by-laws in NY sector. Such persons are not guided by any
welfare motive, but rather by their own group and greedy sentiment.

2. There are some who will detail with all kinds of logic how expulsion
is a needed and proper tool for keeping our Marga clean. But such
logicians are just guided by their personal desire for power etc. That
is the basis of their bogus logic, not AM teachings.

3. And there are people who will justify all kinds of things: Fake
Ananda Vaniis, scripture distortion, eradication of margii rights, fake
BP manual etc. There is no end to their logic. But such logic is not
correct and not in accordance with the dharma of AM. Their paltry views
are just the outcome of group sentiment etc.

In each and every case, on each and every issue, we have to see if a
particular view is based on rationality and represents universal
well-being, i.e. sarva jana hitaya. Then and only then can it be accepted
as proper and true. Then that logic is beneficial.

We should never be swayed by the logic of groupists. Theirs is just
bogus logic and will not lead one along the path of welfare.


If a person ideates on Parama Purusa and takes His teachings to be true,
then that sadhaka will merge in Him and be one with AM ideology, in
thought, word, and deed. There will not be any difference.

But if one gets glued to groupist logic, then one will stray far from
the universal values of AM and become permanently plastered to their
group. They will bind themselves to the dogmatic logic of group
sentiment. That will be their miserable fate. And there will be no escape.

No one should meet such an ugly destiny.

The only way to save oneself is to wholly divorce oneself from the logic
of all groupist policies like the dogma of mahaprayan and instead follow
the great teachings of Parama Purusa in the form of AM ideology. Then
one’s position in life is safe and secure. Then one will float in His
bliss, otherwise not.


By Baba’s grace He has given us perfect and pure teachings in all the
realms of life. His ideology will lead us to the goal. One should keep
all groupist logic – i.e. bogus logic – off to the side, or better yet
in the trash bin. We should only follow His teachings, the ideology of
Ananda Marga – the path of divine intuition.

Baba says, “Logic is a psychic survey. Such a survey may or may not be
correct, therefore it is futile to follow logic blindly… This psychic
survey, embedded in relativity, may or may not be correct. Intuitional
vision is the best logic. Intuitional vision should be your guiding
ideology.” (PNS-15)



It is worth taking a moment to compare the (mis)deeds of both Rudrananda
and Sarvatmananda as it gives deep insight as to how to prevent our AM
society from further harm.

Essentially, Rudrananda is after power and he has done some nasty things
– no doubt. But when his time on this earth expires, “Rudranandaism”
will be gone. His negative legacy will be nil, i.e. not long lasting.
Because he has only chased after post and power for himself and after
his time on this earth that chase will be done, without any real
lingering effects.

Of course, here we are not wishing or waiting for anyone’s expiration,
rather our aim is their rectification. So the above is a mere analysis,
nothing more.

Then there is Sarvatmananda. In stark contrast, his actions will have a
long(er) lasting effect and will probably stand for some time after his
life terminates. Why? Because “Sarvatmanandaism” is focused on systemic
manipulation of organisation and ideology, not just his personal lust
for power. Sarvatmananda also has the goal of Bangalisation & WT
superiority. To that end he has ruined the BP Manual, invented Fake
Ananda Vaniis, founded the dogma of Mahaprayan, ruined countless Hindi
and English discourses, invented expulsion as a weapon, eradicated the
ACB, and indulged in countless other horrific activities.

That is why Sarvatmananda’s “legacy” will be far worse than that of
Rudrananda. It will take time and effort to clean-up the mess made by
Sarvatmananda whereas the dirt created by Rudrananda will get swept away
at the time of his own death.

That is the chief difference between the two.

On personal basis, I have no ill will against either of these Dadas, rather I
think fondly of them as my elder brothers. Only my comments refer to
the repercussions of their misdeeds.

We should be cent-per-cent vigilant not to let anyone distort or change
Baba’s eternal guidelines. In this critical time, that is our main duty:
To keep Guru’s teachings in tact.

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