Archive for August 3rd, 2011

Date: Wed, 03 Aug 2011 06:42:26 -0000
From: Ram Dayal Singh
Subject: Re: Difference Between Tip and Bribe



Your analysis is very good. Thanks for raising this important topic; I have appended the most relevant parts below.

Here I would like to share my own personal story.

All along it has been my regular habit to give “healthy tips” to labourers and related personnel.

But I cannot forget one incident that took place in Ananda Nagar in the early 1990’s. Those days the Goenka and Agrawal families used to stay in the new AMIT building during DMS.

Accordingly, Dada Kalyaneshvaranandji used to arrange a special cook to prepare food for AMIT.

For three days, during DMS, the cook was putting forth his entire effort to please the Goenka family. The cook would not listen to or give attention to anyone else, i.e. those not giving large amounts of money for those three days. This created problems for many during the DMS time. And some simple people were wondering why the cook would not even look their way. Then the answer became known to all.

The reason the cook would not help anyone else was that he was receiving Rs 400 as “Tip” from Goenka Dada at the end of DMS. Therefore, the cook was doing nothing else except trying to please Goenka family.

So, due to a “tip”, the cook did not attend to his allotted duty in an impartial manner. Rather he was giving exclusive attention and preference to those giving big tips and he would do nil (nothing) for those giving smaller tips or not giving at all. Because of the big tip, the cook was partial to one rich man’s family and he (the cook) totally disregarded others. This striking example clearly shows the negative effect that tips have on society – even our AM society.

At that time I started thinking that a tip is like a bribe to get special favour.

Since reading your letter I have decided to permanently stop this ill-conceived convention of tipping others. It is not at all good, rather harmful. Baba does not like it and it is not good for society.

I hope that every genuine Ananda Margii will follow Baba on this point. We should refrain from giving tips and side by side devote energy and time to fighting for higher wages and better working conditions for those employees working for tips.

Ram Dayal Singh

On 08/02/2011 03:25 PM, AM-GLOBAL wrote:
Date: Tue, 02 Aug 2011 11:43:52 -0800 (PST)
From: Pradiips Deva
Subject: Difference Between Tip and Bribe
To: am-global@earthlink.net



Now we come to the next stage: tips or gratuities.

1. What are tips?

A tip is the more moderate amount of money that common people often give to taxi drivers, waiters in the restaurant, delivery men / women, barbers, hotel staff, and others. Tips are usually given to those doing more physically-oriented work, though not always.

In their defense, those workers who receive tips may think, “I am underpaid so I deserve a little bit extra.”

And indeed, out of sympathy for their plight, many do reward such labourers with a tip. Those who give tips often feel that they are expressing their gratitude and those receiving tips feel the extra-money is well-deserved. Both parties feel that tips are distinctly different from bribes. They feel bribes are illegal and under-the-table while tips are an expression of human feeling done in the open.

2. So then what is the stand of Ananda Marga on tips?

We are 100% against tips. In our view, tips are the same thing as a bribe – no difference in quality or effect.

This may be a shock to your ears as many consider tips to be an innocuous expression of generosity and good cheer, but consider the following.

Let me first say this. I have always tipped staff and workers in ways I thought appropriate. I wanted to be generous. But tipping does not solve their problem, rather it worsens the situation of those workers. So this letter is not about being greedy and not tipping others; rather the aim is to uplift all sectors of society.

3. Why are tips harmful?

Baba does not want extra money given to anyone performing a job as this leads to the degeneration of the individual and the disintegration of society. In that sense, a tip and a bribe are essentially the same exact thing. The one receiving the tip becomes personally degenerated because all day long he is thinking about money instead of doing his job; and the problem in collective life is that tips lead to partiality. Those who give big tips receive preferential treatment, while those who do not have money to give a grand tip are forgotten and labeled as “cheap” or “penniless” or “worthless”.

That is why the common acronym for tips is: To Insure Prompt Service.

Those who tip big get treated with high respect and their every need and wish is satisfied. Those common people who do not have the funds to tip are overlooked and neglected.

In due course, people will only do their job for those who give big tips. Here again Baba’s teaching is that when money is given to a person in consideration of their post, then that is not at all proper; indeed that is a bribe.

Baba says, “If, in consideration of the power of your post, anyone offers you a present, that should count as a bribe.” (Caryacarya, Part 2, Society, Point #23d)

Tips then act in the same way as a bribe. Those who are known to give generous tips get treated differently from others. They are given the “royal treatment.”

Even then some may protest and say, “I give tips out of the goodness of my heart – not to receive preferential treatment.”

The response is: “Would you give that person money if they did not do a particular work for you.”

For instance, if you normally give a waiter (food server) a $10 tip when eating in that restaurant, would you still give that waiter $10 if you went to eat in a different restaurant.

Here the point is that one cannot give freely from the heart if something is done exclusively in consideration of another’s person’s job, or post, or title etc. There is some other motive operating. That is why a tip is not a gift, but rather a bribe. We will talk more about gifts further down in this email.

4. Why tips undermine a worker’s dignity and status?

When an employee does not receive a proper salary and has to rely on tips, then his position is insecure. Such a person essentially must beg, plead, and please in order to garner more and more tips. Just imagine if a nurse or teacher worked on tips only. Then they could not pointedly and confidently attend to their work of nursing or teaching. They would be too worried or concerned with pleasing their patients and students – hoping to receive some coins in a jar when the day is over. In that case the status of a nurse or teacher becomes that of a beggar. Their independent, professional status is lost. This is true of any person or profession who relies on tips. That is why it is far, far better for a person to receive a proper paying salary than rely on tips. Then their dignity and social standing are secure.

5. Why your burning house will not be saved?

Just think how terrible it will be if the police or fire department do not respond to your emergency call since they do not consider you to be a big tipper. That is the reality which even exists today in many countries. Or imagine if you went to the doctor and they refused to see because you were not a big tipper. When we think of the matter in this light, does it not create an unsettling feeling in the mind.

Viewing the situation in this manner, it is very evident that tips will bring injustice and stagnancy in the society, just like bribes. Preferential treatment becomes the rule of the day, not true human feeling.

6. Why people give big tips?

Indeed in this money-driven era, people give big tips for multiple reasons. The first being that giving a big tip is a sign that you have money. In the vaeshyan era, being a moneyed man is everything. Giving a big tip means have plenty-o-extra cash. That means you are better than the common man as well as the person whom you are tipping. People want respect, and people know that one distinct way to garner such respect is to tip big. Those who can afford it, do it. And even some poorer people who do not have a lot of money will give a big tip (when they can) just because it satisfies their egoistic desire to rise above and be respected.

Truly speaking, tipping is a very degenerated approach. It degrades both the one doing the tipping and the one receiving the tip. Money is not the value of one’s worth.

Baba says, “Your ideal is represented by your conduct. Your learning, your social or economic status have nothing to do with your ideal.” (Ananda Vanii #13)

7. Who suffers the most?

The ones who suffer the most are those who cannot afford to give a big tip. So just as with bribes, it is the common person who gets neglected and pushed aside while the “wheelers & dealers” like big business and mafioso types get the best of everything. Thus, where there are tips there is partiality, and where there is partiality it is the “common man” who is left behind. That is what tips do: They alienate and block the regular people from getting what they need. They are the ones who suffer the most.


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Date: 03 Aug 2011 21:52:33 -0000
From: “Pramod Dev”
Subject: Illegitimate Child


“Tandra’ yadi a’se he prabhu bheunge dio…” (PS 2497)


O’ my Prabhu, O’ Baba, please grace me so that I can better serve You.
If tandra’*, if drowsiness ever overcomes my being then please destroy
that. And if vanity ever enters into my mind, then please pulverise that
into the dust and keep me in Your shelter. Baba, please grace me so that
I can follow You.
O’ my dearmost, if I ever forget You and move along the sinful path,
then with a thunderous voice please guide and discipline me and bring me
back under Your shelter.
Baba, by Your grace I have come onto this earth– You have brought me
here– to do Your work, to serve You by doing mantra japa, kiirtan,
sadhana, and dhyana. Baba, by Your grace I have come here to move on the
pathway which You have shown me. Baba, please saturate my mind with this
divine truth: That I have come here to remain involved with You– to
revolve around You. Baba, You are the be-all and end-all of my life.
Baba, please be ever-gracious so that I can remain under Your shelter
permanently, forever and ever…

*Tandra’= (Literally meaning ‘drowsiness’) In the above Prabhat Samgiita,
Baba here gives the feeling that it does not mean physical weariness but
rather drowsiness in the spiritual realm. When people remain oblivious of
the spiritual world. When they think that sadhana is for the future only.
In that way their life just passes while involving only in various mundane
thoughts and preoccupation. By this way the mind gradually gets crudified.

This state of remaining oblivious to one’s spiritual life is known as
tandra, or drowsiness in the spiritual sense. As we know Prabhat Samgiita
is something divine– not mundane. For this reason we can understand when
the term tandra’ is used in this song it refers to the spiritual realm. As
we should see Prabhat Samgiita in higher aspects. Baba has furthermore told
that one can only properly understand Prabhat Samgiita when mind is at the
trikuti (ajina cakra) or above. Otherwise one cannot understand the
meaning. Sometimes in Prabhat Samgiita Baba uses terms related with
mundane things; but this is done as an allegory only. The inner sense is
something deeper. So on the mundane level tandra’ means physical drowsiness
but in this song is refers to spiritual drowsiness. Finally, in this
materialistic era, people are more involved in their crude material gain
than their spiritual growth and development. What to say about common human
beings, this thing is quite common the case in our own vast AM family as
well, including myself.

Here are Baba’s furthermore comments on tandra’ and spiritual drowsiness
and lethargy.

Baba says, “Every human being, from the age of fourteen or fifteen, has an
innate desire to ideate on Parama Purus’a. With cosmic ideation one will
attain vast expansion of mind, one will become great in all respects. No
one can check the all-round growth of such a person. People realise this
and yet ignore it and thus waste their time getting old for nothing. That
is, they waste their time in non-spiritual pursuits. This is called
‘spiritual lethargy’. It causes the greatest harm to human life because it
results in only a very small percentage of the human potentiality – maybe
one or two percent – being utilised by humans. Even those who we call great
personalities hardly use ten percent of their potentialities. Due to
spiritual lethargy people are unable to grow, and thus remain very
ordinary. They come to the world, live, decay and die as ordinary human
beings.” (AV-8, ‘Bad Habits Which Should Be Given Up’)

And here Baba explains about tandra’ and the six defects:

Nidra’ tandra’ bhayam’ krodha a’lasyam’ diirghasu’trata’;
S’ad’ados’a’h purus’en’eha ha’ntavya’h bhu’timicchata’.

Baba says, “Those who want to prosper in life must destroy these six
defects in themselves: nidra’ [sleep], tandra’ [drowsiness], a’lasya
[lethargy], bhaya [fear], krodha [anger], and diirghasu’trata’
[procrastination].” (AV-31, ‘Sleep & Inertia’)


These days the greater society has become fragmented in so many ways,
especially in the more materialistic countries. In those places, divorce is
rampant and children are commonly born out of wedlock– i.e. so-called
‘illegitimate children’. This is the regular circumstance.

In order to best help society recover from this tenuous situation, we
should best understand Baba’s views on this terrible problem.


First is an example from the history whereby illegitimate children were
punished. All may be aware of this as it is the famous example from the
Mahabharata period. Specifically it is related with Karna, the first child
of Kunti. Of course we all know that the venerable lady Kunti was the
mother of the five Pandavas. But actually, in total, she was the mother of
six children. The first child, Karna, was born out of wedlock– before
Kunti was married to Pandu she had an encounter with another gentleman.

That time, due to fear of social retribution, she had to throw away her own
newly born child. In her fright and simplicity she placed her new-born on
one boat and floated it down the river where finally it was caught by one
fisherman. And the fisherman and his wife Radha treated the child as God’s

So that is the story of how Karna’s childhood started in one fisherman’s
family. Thereafter throughout his whole life, Karna was censured for being
born in a low caste– sutraputra. Because of this he faced many injustices.
Only much later in life– before the great war– did he come to know the
truth: That he is also a ksattriya and in fact the eldest brother of the
five Pandavas. But this treasure he never got to share with the society and
always Karna was regarded as someone lowly.


In the general society, if anyone gets outcasted or punished, then often
their whole family gets censured and punished– condemned. By this way, the
society gets balkanised into various pieces.

In Indian history, countless incidents are there when children were subject
to serious punishment and outcasting because they were born via illicit
relations or premarital relations. So the ensuing injustices suffered by
the child created a deep chasm in the human society.

In that condition, Baba He has addressed the problem and solved it. Baba
has graciously given the following teaching, on this important social issue.
Baba guides us that if any individual does something wrong, then their
whole family, including their children, will neither be condemned nor
treated as guilty. Even the son of one thief, robber or criminal can be
divine. And the son of a great sadhu or divine entity, can also be a thief
or robber. For example, the son of Lord Shiva, Ka’rtikeya, was very crude
in nature. He never learned or practiced sadhana.


The point of Ananda Marga philosophy is very rational. That, illegitimate
children should neither be punished nor blamed.

Baba says, “In Ananda Marga no one will be looked down upon as an
illegitimate child. In such circumstances, the parents of the child will be
compelled to marry in the prescribed manner, and if need be, the man will
have to agree to more than one marriage. In order that the dignity of a
child born out of wedlock may be saved, it will not be necessary to take
the permission of the earlier wife for the marriage.” (CC I, p.37)

In the same view, we can see that if anyone’s laokika family member has
done something negative or sinful, either in the past or present, then his
whole family, his parents, or his elder brothers or sisters, must not get
abused just because they belong to the family of that wrongdoer.

In the past, in various religions such things were going on because of
their defective social outlook. They were harshly blaming innocent for
crimes done by their family members. So those days the general populace and
religious leaders were suffering from so many psychic diseases and social
dogmas. That’s why they censured and ostracized newly born illicit children
as being “cursed”.

But in our Ananda Margi discussions, such dogmatic beliefs are not
appreciated or followed. And if anyone is indulging in such useless
arguments and accusations which are devoid of ideology, it means Ananda
Marga ideology, Baba’s teachings, could not get a place in their mind.
The conclusive idea is that:

(A) Illegitimate children should not be censured or looked down upon.
(B) If one person is guilty, then the whole family must not be punished.

Thus as society makes its twisting journey from darkness to light we should
ensure that each and every child born on this planet and beyond gets ample
scope and opportunity to grow in a nice way– free of blame and censure
from the society. Because all are the blessed children of Parama Purusa.
Let this be our social outlook.


Here is Baba’s grand blessing that we should help everyone grow and succeed
as all are part and parcel of the same human family.

Baba says, “Human beings of today will move together shoulder to shoulder
towards an exalted humanity, towards the highest fulfillment of their
individual lives.” (PNS-10)



Just as “illegitimate” children cannot be blamed. Similarly people
cannot be blamed on the basis of their family background, caste, color,
community, or other factors related with their birth. For example the Hindu
so-called Harijain community cannot be put down or be called untouchable
just because they were born as so-called harijains. In the same vain, black
people cannot be blamed just because of their skin color. On such
superficial measures related with one’s birth, one cannot be blamed, or
looked down upon.

Nor is one deserving of high praise due to their birth such as in the
case of white people or brahmins. Where just because of their skin color or
caste they are viewed as being the top most of the society.

And Baba furthermore proclaims that social posts and positions are not
hereditary. That is why in Acarya diary Baba has laid down the rule that
children of family acaryas are not acaryas just because of their birth.
Whereas in the dogmatic religions like Islam, Hinduism. Judaism etc, the
priest class is based on one’s birth. The mullahs’ children are mullahs,
the brahmins’ children are brahmins, and the Rabi’s children are rabis.
That is the crude way it works in the dogmatic religions. But Baba has put
a halt to this process and He has given the rule that no such type of post
or social position is to be granted on the point of heredity. It is based
on quality.


For more about this important topic please refer to ‘Social Psychology’
discourse in Tattvika Praveshika (1957), APH-3, AFPS-7, or PNS-3.
The discourse can be found in all three places.

We Should Know & Correct

Baba says, “In algebra the formula (a+b) squared= a2 + b2 + 2ab. This is a
well known formula and originally it was invented by Mahars’i Kapil.”
(SC-8, disc 1, 5 oct 86 kolkata)

Note: It is well known that Mahars’i Kapil was born in India several
thousand years ago. People commonly think the above formula was first
propounded by a western mathematician, but in the above teaching Baba
reveals the real fact. This gives the idea those mathematics was highly
evolved in that early history of India.

Here below Baba tells another important fact regarding Kapil:

Baba says, “The first philosopher was Mahars’i Kapil, who will be
remembered and respected for all time.” (AFPS-9, ‘Geology & Human

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